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13th November 2006
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Biker
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 7 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 1973
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question about neck races
I'm looking to get some new front end parts (steering stem, trees, bearings, and races) and as I understand it, the races can be hammered in (and out) with a block of wood. I recently heard that this is incorrect and that new ones need to be pressed in. Is this the case?
Is any stem & tree set-up (manufacturer) better than the next? When I took the front end apart I found that there was a difference in diameter of 0.003" between the stem and the bearings and so I'm replacing everything.
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14th November 2006
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Rider Of The Iron Steed
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: London, ON Canada
Posts: 23,699 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1978
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I do not have much experience with installing bearings. I have seen it done with a hammer and a PVC pipe, or a hammer and a large socket.
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14th November 2006
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Biker
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 83 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 77
Reputation: 10

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When I painted my frame I just used a block of wood and a large hammer. Worked fine just take it easy and make sure its going in square.
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15th November 2006
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,660
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I don't know about a block of wood, but you can get
a race and seal driver set for about twenty bucks.
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15th November 2006
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Chief Master Mechanic
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Longview,Wa
Posts: 469 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCustom 883 Sportster/Buell Year: 99
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Or some threaded stock, some nuts and washers...I hate beating on things.
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15th November 2006
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Chief Harley Engineer
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Northern (lower) Michigan
Posts: 529 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1985 Other Motorcycle Model: Indian Sport Scout Other Motorcycle Year: 1940
Reputation: 57

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The cups should be pressed in on later models or any with timken bearings. The cup is real light and could damage easy. The earlier roller bearing types are just like a bicycle and could be tunked in with block of wood.
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15th November 2006
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Biker
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 83 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 77
Reputation: 10

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His profile says a 73 so I was basing it on that.
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15th November 2006
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Chief Harley Engineer
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Northern (lower) Michigan
Posts: 529 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1985 Other Motorcycle Model: Indian Sport Scout Other Motorcycle Year: 1940
Reputation: 57

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Originally Posted by sjeccles
His profile says a 73 so I was basing it on that.
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I'm with ya, just trying to come up with rational explanation why half say yes, and half say no...possibility of retrofitting timkens to old iron too.
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15th November 2006
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Biker
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 32 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 1999
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If you talking about getting the cups in the frame neck, try freezing them for a few hours. The cups will contract and should slide in easy. You can do the same with the races. And/or try all thread and some blocks on each end, but I wouldn't beat it too much with anything.
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16th November 2006
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Biker
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 83 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 77
Reputation: 10

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Quote:
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Originally Posted by tprJJ49707
I'm with ya, just trying to come up with rational explanation why half say yes, and half say no...possibility of retrofitting timkens to old iron too.
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The ones saying no aren't riding Ironheads. So they may not be used to the old neck cups.
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