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Posts: 65 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1975 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHTP Other Motorcycle Year: 2003
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Starter Question
Ive read the starter pinion gear thread and Am Having a similar problem..But slightly different, want your guys opinion*..Brand new solenoid and Bendix gear..tested the starter with primary cover in place. it engages the bendix to gear just fine and turns the motor over but only a few seconds and then makes a clattery free spin sound..I can release the starter button and redo the process..If you were counting engine sounds it goes> ( in lopes) 1-2- Free spin or 1-2-3- free spin..does this sound like a loss of current problem or a starter problem?? anyone else ever have this?
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4th March 2009
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Low battery or bad cables or starter drawing too much current. These starter systems must have a fully charged battery. Do a voltage drop test across the battery cables, check for heat at any connections. What does the battery voltage drop to when cranking?
Get a battery tender to keep your battery fully charged, it will pay for itself by doubling the life of the battery.
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thanx ryder rick..the battery is brand new and fully charged ..I will let ya know the current drops tonight..I replaced the starter relay just for the hell of it (12$)just to take a piece out of the puzzle..nothing changed..if cables are good and battery is good.. what starter components would be bad? Bendix is new along with the Solenoid..Ill check the draw ASAP
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4th March 2009
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New sometimes doesn't mean it isn't faulty, or a crap imported product!!
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Originally Posted by russzx6
New sometimes doesn't mean it isn't faulty, or a crap imported product!!
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First thing I thought of Russ* It sure seems to lock tight the one way to me..anyways...its jumping down from 12.58 to about 7.48 on my meter at the battery when I hit the starter button..I need an extra hand before I can give ya the cable and starter readings..
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4th March 2009
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Originally Posted by SHEEPDAWG
First thing I thought of Russ* It sure seems to lock tight the one way to me..anyways...its jumping down from 12.58 to about 7.48 on my meter at the battery when I hit the starter button..I need an extra hand before I can give ya the cable and starter readings..
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Charge up the battery then take the battery to an auto parts store and have them load test it.
It shouldn't have dropped below 9 volts or so.
If it checks out, you have excessive resistance somewhere in the starting circuit. Maybe a shorted starter winding or a solenoid winding or just a bad connection. If there's a problem in the starting circuit and your voltage is dropping that much you're going to feel heat wherever the problem is. Feel the starter, solenoid/relay, and connections. If they're hot there's excessive resistance.
I would have the battery load tested out of the bike first.
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Thankyou...soif it tests good you're sayn a short inside* the starter the copper windings?...can it be fixed or is that easier to get a new starter?
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4th March 2009
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Originally Posted by SHEEPDAWG
Thankyou...soif it tests good you're sayn a short inside* the starter the copper windings?...can it be fixed or is that easier to get a new starter?
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If it ends up being a starter winding it would be best to replace the starter.
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I remember a while back Hopper had bought a new battery . . .then had problems . . .replaced a few hundred $$ of other parts and it came back to the "new" battery which had a couple of faulty cells. A load test will be the true test, a basic way i test an acid cell battery is when you are charging it . .see if all the cells are bubbling . . .one not bubbling is a sure sign that section is faulty
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ok guys I appreciate the help as always*..Ill let ya know..
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