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18th April 2009
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Biker
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 89 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH 1000 Sportster/Buell Year: 1980
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Fatal crash in my city
I'm a police officer and we just had a fatal motorcycle crash in the city I work in.
Forgive me if I'm light on the details, but I don't want to put out any info that might identify anyone involved.
The crash occurred during daylight on a residential street. Weather and road conditions were not an issue. Low speed. No alcohol suspected. Blood test results not yet known.
The rider was part of a group.
Evidentally he over-reacted to a surprise event (caused by riders ahead of him) and locked up his rear wheel - no evidence of front wheel braking. The rear wheel slid out, he released the rear brake, the rear tire caught, and threw him high-side. He landed on his head. No helmet. Cause of death not yet determined, but appears to be head trauma.
The lessons are obvious:
Regardless of your time riding, you need to practice emergency stops. Get in the habit of using your front brake primarily. Exercise caution riding in groups and ride in staggered formation. If your rear wheel locks up and slides - stand on it, work the front brake, and ride it out. Smacking the pavement at even low speeds can kill you. I can't claim that wearing a helmet would have saved his life (I'll wait for the coroner's report) but it does appear so.
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18th April 2009
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 125 Sportster/Buell Model: nightster Sportster/Buell Year: 07
Reputation: 79

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well said. lost a freind almost one year ago to the day on her road king, all because a young girl driving a mini-van was not paying attention [probably on a cell ] god bless you dianne.  
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18th April 2009
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Dirty Old Dog
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,383 Sportster/Buell Model: 883R bored to a 900 Sportster/Buell Year: 2002 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Cushman Other Motorcycle Model: Briggs & Stratton Chopper
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Good post and advice. I use to practice my braking and riding skills to stay in tune with the bike. This is a good reminder to find an empty parking lot or road and practice the skills again. 
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18th April 2009
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fisherofmen
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: alabama
Posts: 4,458 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200 C Chopper Sportster/Buell Year: 2005 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 1200 R Sportster/Buell Year #2: 08 Other Motorcycle Model: XLH 1000 Other Motorcycle Year: 79
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thanks for the post. thoughts and prayers to his family. can't be too careful out there. i am going riding now. i always pray before going out. trust nothing on 4 wheels and watch the others on 2. ride safe
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18th April 2009
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Senior Chief Know It All 1st Class
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Arenzville
Posts: 1,189 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200c Sportster/Buell Year: 05 Other Motorcycle Model: Honda XR250r Other Motorcycle Year: 90
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Look guys, first I want to say that my heart goes out to the family of this guy. Second I'd like to say that while I'd love to post my opinion on this I'm not going to. We have enough Helmet threads going right now. Lets just let this be what it is. A reminder of what can happen when you ride with OR WITHOUT a helmet.
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18th April 2009
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Ride That F'N Sportster!!
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Carolina Coast
Posts: 12,063 Sportster/Buell Model: Highly modified 1200 c Sportster/Buell Year: 01 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHX H-D Street glide Other Motorcycle Year: 2013
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If your rear wheel locks up and slides - stand on it, work the front brake, and ride it out
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Not sure what you mean by "stand on it"
Best panic braking is achieved with the use of both brakes, as you apply more pressure to the front (before lock up) you readily get more traction to the front tire (more braking) resulting in less to the rear, one would need to modulate the rear brake to keep rear from skidding or going highside..
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18th April 2009
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xllent01
Not sure what you mean by "stand on it"
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if you let go of the rear brake when it's locked up you will go flying. if it locks up you better just keep it locked up until you stop.
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18th April 2009
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Senior Chief Know It All 1st Class
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Arenzville
Posts: 1,189 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200c Sportster/Buell Year: 05 Other Motorcycle Model: Honda XR250r Other Motorcycle Year: 90
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Originally Posted by ali_squidz
if you let go of the rear brake when it's locked up you will go flying. if it locks up you better just keep it locked up until you stop.
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That's not exactly right. You CAN highside if you let off, but it's not an absolute. With some practice a slide can be fairly controllable.
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18th April 2009
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Ride That F'N Sportster!!
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Carolina Coast
Posts: 12,063 Sportster/Buell Model: Highly modified 1200 c Sportster/Buell Year: 01 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHX H-D Street glide Other Motorcycle Year: 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ali_squidz
if you let go of the rear brake when it's locked up you will go flying. if it locks up you better just keep it locked up until you stop.
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Thanks but just standing on it is totally wrong.. best to modulate into the transition to keep the rear tire from skidding to control the slide better..
Read above..
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18th April 2009
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Harley Engineer
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 337 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200c Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
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I used to flat track, I know what High side means, it hurts....
A lot of people panic if there back wheel slides, don't let off, ride it out....
Everyone should know how there bike will react to hard braking....
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