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23rd September 2009
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Biker
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 17 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1975
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Restoration - Paint or Powder Coat
So, I'm soliciting opinions on whether to paint or powdercoat a 1975 XLCH frame for a restoration.
I believe some feel that since powder coating was not used in 1975, the frame should be painted. However, I believe frames then were coated using "stove enameling" which I believe is rare to find. So, painting with wouldn't be all that authentic either? Perhaps someone knows what process was used to paint these frames.
I have been told that many credible restorers are powder coating old frames.
All opinions welcome. Thanks.
Doug
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23rd September 2009
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Senior Chief Know It All 1st Class
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: louisville , ky
Posts: 1,108 Sportster/Buell Model: 883 custom Sportster/Buell Year: 2000
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i think powder coat is somewhat more durable but theres no real touch up, where as painted could be touched up after fitting the motor and such and look good.
my .02
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23rd September 2009
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Land Speed Record
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: northeast
Posts: 710 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1972 Other Motorcycle Model: Norton + BMW R1200C
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How much of a restoration is this? If it's a true resto. then it's paint. If it's a refurbish for yourself, powdercoat is the way to go.
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23rd September 2009
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Schenecanecanectady
Posts: 131 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster Sportster/Buell Year: 1972
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Anything I ever owned that was powder coated eventually rusted under the coating, like my Dodge truck bumpers. I wouldn't powder coat anything, ever. I used epoxy urethane on my frame 9 years ago and it still looks like new.
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23rd September 2009
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Senior Chief Know It All 2nd Class
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,407 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1969 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1960 Other Motorcycle Model: XLCH Other Motorcycle Year: 1959
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if you are restoring the whole bike to original condition, then paint it. a good enamel will give you a finish close to the original. Joestuff sprayed his '62 with a high quality enamel from a spray can and it looks pretty darn good.
if by restore you really mean refurbishing, then do whichever you prefer.
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23rd September 2009
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,104 Sportster/Buell Model: Ironhead XLH Sportster Sportster/Buell Year: 1978 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Ironhead XLT Sportster Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1977 Other Motorcycle Model: Honda CBX 1000 Other Motorcycle Year: 1979
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JimInNY
Anything I ever owned that was powder coated eventually rusted under the coating, like my Dodge truck bumpers. I wouldn't powder coat anything, ever. I used epoxy urethane on my frame 9 years ago and it still looks like new.
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+1 on this! I can't tell you how many things I've worked on that were powdercoated and had the coating peeling off due to corrosion underneath. I'll never powdercoat anything I own. High quality urethane paint is the way to go.
Eric
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23rd September 2009
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Biker
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 17 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1975
Reputation: 109
 
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Thanks. I am shooting for restoration. If anything must fall short of a full restoration for now, I want my options open to complete it in the future. Hence, the decision on the frame coating.
Does anyone have any paint recommendations for an industrial polyurethane?
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23rd September 2009
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Senior Bike Builder
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,922 Sportster/Buell Model: 93 Cubic Inch XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1975 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1968 Other Motorcycle Model: Softail Deluxe Other Motorcycle Year: 2007
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Well I guess if your going for a 100 point restoration your going to have to paint it. I think for the fellow members whose powder coating peeled it was probably bad preparation by the coater. The motor company frames are all powder coated these days so it's safe to say that if it's done right it will last.
Here is a picture of my '75 XLH frame which I think came out beautiful after powder coating.

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23rd September 2009
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Puget Sound--Washington State
Posts: 3,838 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1961 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Sportster XL Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1957 Other Motorcycle Model: XLH 62, 65, 68, FLH 1970
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Who are these reputable restorers? If you are going to restore the bike, paint it--period. In fact, I've spoken recently with two AMCA judges who say that they are going to start docking points for base coat-clear coat. I would go one of two ways. If your painter is doing it, go with a single stage urethane, 80% gloss on the frame. If you're doing it yourself (highly recommended) buy a can of good black epoxy paint. A lot of top shelf restorers actually prefer the spray can method (frames only) because they are so easy to retouch.
As 64xlh mentioned, take a gander at Joestuff's gorgeous 62 high-point restoration. His frame paint job came out of a poof can, and it looks great.
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23rd September 2009
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Senior Chief Know It All
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Southeast Oklahoma
Posts: 887 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster XL Sportster/Buell Year: 1976 Other Motorcycle Model: Springer Softtail Other Motorcycle Year: 89'
Reputation: 155
 
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My frame was powder-coated when I bought it. It is very durable, but I think you will have to tap all threaded holes, and make sure your grounds make contact to the frame. When I get chips in mine,I touch it up with enamel paint.
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