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16th May 2005
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Guys...Need your input on this problem!
For those with 2004-2005 XL's:
How many of you have replaced the powder coated rocker box covers (on the 1200R), OR the polished covers (on the 883), with chrome covers? For those who did this, have you had any problems with oil leaks??
Here's why I ask...
For over a year I have had consistant problems with rocker cover oil leaks on my 2004 XL1200R. Right after I bought the bike I upgraded the stock powder coated covers with chrome and have had the bike to the dealer no less than five times to get the leak corrected...each time they replaced the gasket, and one time they "sanded down" the gasket surface on the rocker cover because they said it "wasn't flat". The last two gaskets have been the latest revision (P/N 17353-89B) which is supposed to correct oil leaks per a recent Service Bulletin (M1168).
Finally they asked me to reinstall the original powder coated covers and, when it didn't leak, I expected they would conclude that the chrome covers had some manufacturing defect, and give me replacements...
....but their incredible  conclusion was that "you must match the cover finish with the same rocker box finish" (chrome-on-chrome, etc.) and they want ME to buy chrome rocker boxes.
So now I have two useless chrome covers (that they have ruined by sanding off the chrome finish on the gasket surface, which will allow peeling of the plating!)
I'm calling Customer Service in Milwaukee, but first I want to know if anyone else has had a similar experience, or has been given the same ridiculous advice from Tech Services.
Thanks for any help you can give me!
John
Last edited by jpj2004xl1200r; 17th May 2005 at 21:35..
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16th May 2005
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Know It All
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Right in the middle of Illinois
Posts: 182 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200R Sportster/Buell Year: 2004
Reputation: 67

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That is freaking crazy!  It's their problem not yours. I would definately call corporate on this. They sold you the the covers. If it was going to be a problem they should have told you. Then they essentially ruined them by grinding them down.
All I can say is make sure they pay for whatever needs to happen.
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16th May 2005
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Senior Chief Harley Engineer 1st Class
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: palm of your right hand, MI
Posts: 1,393 Sportster/Buell Model: '92 883/1200
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Try different gaskets. I hear the moco gaskets are shit.
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16th May 2005
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Drag Race Champion
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 376
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Originally Posted by dwardy
Try different gaskets. I hear the moco gaskets are shit.
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It should not leak and as Dwardy says try another source of gaskets also get your money back they should have replaced the covers if they were not flat ! go toanother dealer after you get a refund or find a non dealer to install them or do it your self....
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16th May 2005
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Senior Chief Master Mechanic
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Queensland
Posts: 995 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200R Sportster/Buell Year: 2004 Other Motorcycle Model: from 64-2004 all kinds
Reputation: 10

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Should no leak my mate replaced his 7 months ago and no probs.
Grayfeather.
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16th May 2005
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Converse, Texas--Just Outside Of San Antonio
Posts: 7,771 Sportster/Buell Model: 883>1200 XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 2003 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHTCU Other Motorcycle Year: 2008
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Who is this Stuipid A  Dealer????
Sounds Like they have sh  for brains!!!!
I'd go back and get my money back then go do it my self!!!! 
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16th May 2005
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Keep On Keepin' On
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 871 Sportster/Buell Model: Pulled to the Darkside Other Motorcycle Model: FLHTCI Other Motorcycle Year: 2005
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Originally Posted by txsporty
Who is this Stuipid A  Dealer????
Sounds Like they have sh  for brains!!!! 
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Get 'em tx!
That response from stealers is all too common these days.
I keep hearing stories that the dealers are over-stocked with scooters, factory made too many etc., eventually that has a trickle-down effect and that attitude will change (OK, maybe that is wishful thinking).
Stick to your guns and give them a hard time - right back.
Good Luck,
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16th May 2005
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 5,990 Sportster/Buell Model: XL 883 Sportster/Buell Year: 2004 Other Motorcycle Model: Heritage Classic Other Motorcycle Year: 2004
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Originally Posted by txsporty
Who is this Stuipid A  Dealer????
Sounds Like they have sh  for brains!!!!
I'd go back and get my money back then go do it my self!!!! 
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I'm with Tx on this one! Damn, I hate it when a stealer (H-D or any other brand) pulls this crap! 
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16th May 2005
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Senior Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 2,654 Other Motorcycle Model: 2005 FXD Chopper Blue
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A chrome top cover should not effect the sealing properties of the gasket. As long as the two gasket surfaces are clean and flat you should have no leaks, period.
If one chrome cover leaks while mating to a non chrome cover then two chrome covers should leak even worse. Or so they seem to think.
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....but their incredible conclusion was that "you must match the cover finish with the same rocker box finish" (chrome-on-chrome, etc.) and they want ME to buy chrome rocker boxes.
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Ask them if a chrome primary or cam case cover leaks against a non chrome engine case? and why not? Two different surfaces.
I think the dealership should give you two new covers to try since they screwed up the ones you have now.
Those gaskets will leak like a siv if the surfaces are not completely clean and new gaskets are used. The slightest amount of oil on them WILL cause them to slide and leak. Ask me how I know.
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Last edited by barry1967; 16th May 2005 at 13:12..
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16th May 2005
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,660
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Originally Posted by jpj2004xl1200r
For those with 2004-2005 XL's:
....but their incredible  conclusion was that "you must match the cover finish with the same rocker box finish" (chrome-on-chrome, etc.) and they want ME to buy chrome rocker boxes.
John
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Sounds alot like my dealer. Talking BS in circles to make money. This should not make any difference at all. The two surfaces do not even touch each other because of the gasket. If they are machined the same like they should be there should be no problem. I just found out over the weekend that a guy I used to work with years ago got out of construction and now has an indy shop complete with dyno. I'll be dealing with him for now on.  the stealers.
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