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6th July 2010
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Springfield Tn
Posts: 10,085 Sportster/Buell Model: 1998 S= Superior Model Sportster/Buell Year: 1998
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This is a pretty good read
http://www.sportster.org/tech/basic-...rley-tax.shtml
he Harley Tax
L. Maurice Riggins - Jan, 1998
On a new bike, you need to pay "the Harley tax", that is, pay to make the bike the way it should come from the factory if it weren't for a Federal government trying to save us from ourselves. This requires you open up the intake, open up the exhaust, and rejet, not only to adjust for the first two changes, but to compensate for smog jetting as well. And on a factory 1200, if you intend to run it at high revs for max hp, you also need to get rid of the 5,200 rev limit in the stock ignition. There's a little more performance to be had on a nearly stock 1200 in this range at the expense of increased engine wear and tear... only a little if you keep it below about 6,000 rpm (no need to exceed that on a nearly stock 1200) and progressively more as you go up. |
6th July 2010
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Mental floss
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: FT Myers
Posts: 4,466 Sportster/Buell Model: sportsterR Sportster/Buell Year: 2105 Other Motorcycle Model: 82 1000sz katana Other Motorcycle Year: abov
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And then the is always my fee.
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7th July 2010
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Mental floss
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: FT Myers
Posts: 4,466 Sportster/Buell Model: sportsterR Sportster/Buell Year: 2105 Other Motorcycle Model: 82 1000sz katana Other Motorcycle Year: abov
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My job and has been for over 100 years is.....to shuffle stock owners to the "what if" realm......
of sleep. "if" i changed that. Well wouldn't that look good "if" i did this.
It always starts the same. I could make my ____better "if" i did that.
All i charge is just a little lost sleep, you know just when you need it.
When you picture what your bike could do in the 1/4 mile and look so sublime.I charge in advance, before you bought it remember?
Last edited by Ireeman; 7th July 2010 at 04:19..
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19th September 2010
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Biker
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1
Reputation: 10
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Often its called a Harley Tax. But I dont know why, as practically every person with a bike that Ive ever known either had complete intake to exhaust mods done to make their bike better than stock, or wanted to.
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19th September 2010
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Known Troublemaker !
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Lexington, NC
Posts: 7,390 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster 1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 06
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Making the Bike Run as it should, Not as the EPA dictated Harley to Make it run....
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19th September 2010
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Master Mechanic
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Catskill Mtns of NY
Posts: 265 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200 L Sportster/Buell Year: 08 Other Motorcycle Model: BMW R1200R Other Motorcycle Year: 2011
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I always thought HD taxes were pretty stiff....... Then I added a BMW to the stable this year  At least with Harley you can always find a dealer nearby. If you break down on the BMW you will likely head to the nearest truck/ trailer rental place and have to haul the bike hundreds of miles to find a dealer.
I have changed risers on both the HD & the BMW. The risers & install at HD about $250. At BMW about $430.
Most of my riding gear has HD lables on it so some have given me crap about wearing it while on the BMW. The HD jacket that cost me $250 at Harley cost $600 at the BMW dealer.
Suddenly I find myself crying a little less about the cost of HD stuff 
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Ol' Wrench Head of the Hell's Beerguts MC
'08 XL 1200L (Angel) , SE intake, power commander, rush 2.0
Progressive 418's, Progressive fork springs, Micro Tach +
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27th September 2010
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Flat Track Racer
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kansas City Metro
Posts: 233 Sportster/Buell Model: xl1200s Sportster/Buell Year: 1999 Other Motorcycle Model: Road King & (2) Bobbers
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If you have to ask "How much", you probably cant afford it.
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27th September 2010
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Biker
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 89 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 1997
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Harley Taxes, it’s a brilliant marketing ploy. 1) Produce a good product with just enough stuff to make it desirable. 2) Produce lots of chrome goodies, and Harley name brand clothing line and miscellaneous accessories both for the rider, passenger and the bike itself all with a healthy markup.
Then, sit back and watch all the people empty their collective wallets purchasing just one more piece of chrome for their rides. Fill biker magazines with pictures of chromed Harleys and smile all the way to the bank.
Oh Lord, please let me be able to buy more chrome plated do-hicky!
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3rd December 2010
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 122 Sportster/Buell Model: XL-883 standard Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
Reputation: 35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by my1200
I thought it meant you got the pipes,a/c,jetted whatever. Basically paying more to have the bike the way it should have come from the factory.
sort of a tax...don't quote me lol.
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That's what I always understood it to be even before arriving at this site. |
3rd December 2010
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Chief Master Mechanic
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 498 Sportster/Buell Model: 883N Sportster/Buell Year: 2009 Other Motorcycle Model: FLSTSI Heritage Springer Other Motorcycle Year: 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GBag
I always thought HD taxes were pretty stiff....... Then I added a BMW to the stable this year At least with Harley you can always find a dealer nearby. If you break down on the BMW you will likely head to the nearest truck/ trailer rental place and have to haul the bike hundreds of miles to find a dealer.
I have changed risers on both the HD & the BMW. The risers & install at HD about $250. At BMW about $430.
Most of my riding gear has HD lables on it so some have given me crap about wearing it while on the BMW. The HD jacket that cost me $250 at Harley cost $600 at the BMW dealer.
Suddenly I find myself crying a little less about the cost of HD stuff |
"HD" = Hundred Dollars
"BMW" = Bring My Wallet
Regarding taxes paid maybe it's an East Coast saying 
I have heard that expression for at least 20 years as reference to changing the pipes, air cleaner and rejet (tuning).
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