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13th March 2010
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Ohm's Mafia
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 4,754 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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It was bound to happen....fraudulent charges againest Toyota
I don't know how many of you heard this 911 call from the Prius driver James Sikes....but when I first heard I said I call B.S. on this one:
At 2:58 in the video the 911 Operator asked him if he tried to put it in neutral....his reply "I'm trying to control the car." Then she asks him again....he says "no". "Can you try that?" she asks....and she asks numerous times....no response. In another call with 911 they ask him if he applied the brakes and he said it shudders and feels like it is slipping. No kidding moron....why don't you take your other foot off the gas pedal first!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCZL...eature=related
Now the news is saying that he recently filed for bankruptcy and is 5 payments behind on said Prius. What a P.O.S.....if this turns out to be a bogus case they should throw his rear in a nice prison full of sex offenders! Scum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy-pJ...eature=related
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13th March 2010
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Springfield Tn
Posts: 10,085 Sportster/Buell Model: 1998 S= Superior Model Sportster/Buell Year: 1998
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he was just trying to Jump on the band wagon
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13th March 2010
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Senior Chief Master Mechanic 2nd Class
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: mission,b.c canada
Posts: 1,535 Sportster/Buell Model: nightster Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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well i used to be a toyota guy used 4x4's only.i wouldnt buy a new jap/korean/china car period.i buy domestic i know even they have problems but what doesnt.so i keep my money in canada/us makes me feel better  as for dude with the prius well he will get what he deserves
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14th March 2010
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Drag Race Champion
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 397 Sportster/Buell Model: 883c Sportster/Buell Year: 2006
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Have to agree with colonelangus.
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14th March 2010
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Chief Harley Engineer
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Saugus, MA
Posts: 549 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH 1200 Sportster/Buell Year: 1992 Other Motorcycle Model: FLHRSI Other Motorcycle Year: 2004
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Rather than just Toyota's...I am not wanting or driving any vehicle with electronic throttle control.
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15th March 2010
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3,839 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 05
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well i used to be a toyota guy used 4x4's only.i wouldnt buy a new jap/korean/china car period.i buy domestic i know even they have problems but what doesnt.so i keep my money in canada/us makes me feel better as for dude with the prius well he will get what he deserves
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It's not just about where you money goes for me. After owning a toyota and honda I don't believe they make a better car than the american manufacturers. We have owned 3 GM cars and every one of them has been long lived and reliable with better build quality and features.
Honda was a disaster for us. These cars in the family have been the most unreliable cars we have owned. Nothing but transmission, brake, and electrical problems on all 3.
The Toyota's for the most part were a good car and were nice cars, but I never saw them anymore reliable or better built than any of the GM cars we owned.
My biggest problem with the Japanese manufacturer's, and why Toyota is in big trouble now, is them unwilling to stand up for the quality problems they had. It was a pain getting anything covered under warranty. They would always say it was normal or if something was obviously wrong that it was abuse. Mistakes happen, but how you handle them makes a difference. Denial and shifting blame just isn't right.
Check this out. Acceleration problem or not (also depends if you believe abc). They claim the toyota brakes are too underpowered to stop the car when at WOT. Other manufacturers have brakes that are able to stop a car even at WOT acceleration. I believe this claim as I have always thought Japanese brakes were underpowered. Remember that the brakes on our Sportsters are Japanese (Nissin).
Even more scary. Unsure if the claim is true or not. Is that if you pump the brake pedal you loose the brakes and have no braking. I would think it wouldn't be out of the question to pump the brakes in a situation like that. It may explain why some people are claiming the brakes had zero effect.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnew...f-control.html
As for the fradulent claim. Unfortunately this is what is going to happen. There are always dishonest people trying to jump on the bandwagon. I don't think it takes anything away from Toyota's quality problems.
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15th March 2010
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Know It All
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 167 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh 883 Hugger Sportster/Buell Year: 1988
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When i first heard this story i was thinking it was bs. But who am i. We will see.
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15th March 2010
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Ohm's Mafia
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Anytown USA
Posts: 4,754 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200N Sportster/Buell Year: 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CBAS5
I don't think it takes anything away from Toyota's quality problems.
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I agree...I wasn't saying that they don't have problems...the story was more in reference to the idiot trying to pull off the scam.
I am hearing now that the investigation is proving that he was lying:
During and after the incident, Sikes said he was using heavy pressure on his brake pedal at high speeds.
But the investigation of the vehicle, carried out jointly by safety officials from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and Toyota engineers, didn't find signs the brakes had been applied at full force at high speeds over a sustained period of time, the three people familiar with the investigation said.
The brakes were discolored and showed wear, but the pattern of friction suggested the driver had intermittently applied moderate pressure on the brakes, these people said, adding the investigation didn't find indicators of the heavy pressure described by Sikes.
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15th March 2010
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Senior Chief Harley Engineer
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,017 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster XL883N Sportster/Buell Year: 2009 Other Motorcycle Model: CBR replica minibike
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Toyota fessed up and did the right thing with the recall. Ford and Nissan have similar problems and claims but have not bit the bullet yet. Hope
we get movement there soon.
This fly-in-soup syndrome, I too just hope they get what they really deserve.
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15th March 2010
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: cordova, tn
Posts: 12,744 Sportster/Buell Model: xl1218rr turbo Sportster/Buell Year: 1993
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This type of crap is a result of a litigation happy society. Everyone wants to win the Lotto and some try to influence the numbers. This kind of crap pisses me off eventhough I could care less about Toyota.
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