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19th December 2011
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 3,192 Sportster/Buell Model: Buell S1 Sportster/Buell Year: 1997 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Buell S2T Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1996 Other Motorcycle Model: Moto Guzzi California Other Motorcycle Year: 2003
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I think we all need to keep it in perspective how difficult a project of this magnitude is especially so far from the USA.
If I had to communicate in his native language, I would have trouble finding out directions to the toilette.
An 88 build is a major undertaking, even in the country where Harley's are on every street corner. Could he have done better, maybe, but there is a lot that can go wrong in a build like this and he has been working in more difficult circumstances than usual. I think we should cut him some slack.
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19th December 2011
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Irwin, Pennsylvania
Posts: 4,588 Sportster/Buell Model: Hammer 1250 Hugger Sportster/Buell Year: 1997
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Originally Posted by maru
I think we all need to keep it in perspective how difficult a project of this magnitude is especially so far from the USA.
If I had to communicate in his native language, I would have trouble finding out directions to the toilette.
An 88 build is a major undertaking, even in the country where Harley's are on every street corner. Could he have done better, maybe, but there is a lot that can go wrong in a build like this and he has been working in more difficult circumstances than usual. I think we should cut him some slack.
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+1 to Maru.
There isn't too many of us that would even think about attempting this kind of build without prior building experience. Even if we did try and ran into a problem we could simply stop and make a call the following day to get answers. And, because there would be no language barrier we naturally would be able to understand the advice that was offered.
I gotta give the guy a lot credit for sticking with it.
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19th December 2011
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Biker
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Originally Posted by Motorhead1973
Read this thread front to back. Kinda like hitting your self in the nuts with a hammer slightly amusing, but mostly painful.
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Hours later I can breath and agree to this but good luck
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19th December 2011
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Jester Mafia
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Posts: 8,561 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year: 2006 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XL1200C Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2006 Other Motorcycle Model: 48 Other Motorcycle Year: 2012
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He did have plenty of constructive input from here and chose to ignore all of it
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19th December 2011
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Biker
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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19th December 2011
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JESTER MAFIA
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Posts: 9,131 Sportster/Buell Model: NRHS 1250-R Sportster/Buell Year: 2005
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Originally Posted by rocketmangb
He did have plenty of constructive input from here and chose to ignore all of it
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19th December 2011
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Senior Chief Master Mechanic 2nd Class
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,537 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200R SOLD Sportster/Buell Year: 06
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45 pages long, but all these replies, I kinda want to read them all now haha.
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19th December 2011
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Greasemonkey
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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i agree with the hammer to the nuts, this thread was painful to read but i have now subscribed. Have an 88 kit in the works myself and this sh*t scares me!!!!
I just can't believe he's trying again, thats awesome!! Hopefully same mistakes aren't made again.
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19th December 2011
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Bike Builder
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Tinley Park, IL
Posts: 1,807 Sportster/Buell Model: 883/1212 XL Custom Sportster/Buell Year: 2004 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH STROKER Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1959
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Originally Posted by rocketmangb
He did have plenty of constructive input from here and chose to ignore all of it
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More than once as a matter of fact.
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22nd December 2011
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outside the box racing
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Phoenix, Az
Posts: 4,337 Sportster/Buell Model: Turbo 1350 XLSR Sportster/Buell Year: 99 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Turbo 1350 XLDS project Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2000 Other Motorcycle Model: 883->1330 dragster Other Motorcycle Year: 1991
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Motorhead1973
Read this thread front to back. Kinda like hitting your self in the nuts with a hammer slightly amusing, but mostly painful.
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+1 on the hammer+nuts.
on some level i sympathize. when i did my 1250, rather the first time i did my 1250, i decided to take a calculated risk and do a mototune fast breakin and lost. after that it was by the book and 4k miles later i still have 220 psi hot in both cylinders.
and while the ignition i am running, 1005S-EX, is mapped for sportster i think i might be hitting rico up for some maps now that i have a cable coming.
but to the point - OP was told straight up many many times that he needed to remap that TC to XL and not once did I see an indication that it was done.
i think most all of the subsequent problems stemmed from the repeated heat stress put on the engine (both of them) by the incorrect timing combined with the abuse doled out on the fresh top end.
if OP does not immediately heed the advice given regarding timing we are looking at a dead engine rolling. again.
maherdad_it - we all want you to succeed but you need to pay attention to what these people, who know what they are talking about, are saying. make sure your mechanic understands and complies. otherwise you are still wasting your time and money.
good luck.
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