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6th June 2012
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XL FORUM TEAM MEMBER
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 526 Sportster/Buell Model: xlch Sportster/Buell Year: 1973
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head specs
Well just got a set of heads back for a motor im doing.Had four guides four valve seat inserts .All new valves as well all supplied by me .Got charged 750 bucks for the work which I thought was a bit steep but tried twenty or so machine shops including major engine rebuilders.And this guy was the only one that said he can do them.He said he has done plenty of shovel and pan heads before so i left them with him. Well having paid for work before and it was done wrong I thought well im not going to take his word that they are good to go.Keep in mind that I gave him my shop manual so he had all the correct specs.Well got up this morning and went to the shed and pulled the rear exhaust valve out to check the specs and guess what it aint right grrrrrrrr .minimum valve sticking out the head when measured from the shoulder of the guide is 1.375 ive got 1.345.wtf IM no engineer but I reckon the valves will hit the pistons.How the f---k do you get that wrong when ya have the specs in front of you .So ive got this right if there is less than the minimum there is to much valve in the combustion chamber . And a good chance they will hit the piston on compression stroke
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6th June 2012
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Biker
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 55
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Heads
For what its worth,I would clay the heads and see if they will hit.I paid 800 for mine to be done.Just told him I was running the r5 cams with wiseco forged,sent them out,3 weeks later,walla.PERFECT.Call Jim at Megaflo near pittsburgh.Hes a one man machine shop that has been producing top wins around the world for sportsters and shovels.He can help!!!
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6th June 2012
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Senior Chief Master Mechanic 2nd Class
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: SE LA
Posts: 1,559 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: '78 Sportster/Buell Model #2: 883 XLH w/1200kit Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1993 Other Motorcycle Model: 93" Pan/Shovel Other Motorcycle Year: 1968
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The max/min spec for valve stem protrusion is to insure proper rocker arm geometry, not piston-to-valve clearance.
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6th June 2012
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Senior Bike Builder
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,990 Sportster/Buell Model: Custom Sputhe XR Sportster/Buell Year: 19** Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1965
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Are you guys seriously saying you are paying $750.00+ for a simple valve job?
No high flow porting or flowbench work, no hardened seats, and you said you supplied the valves and springs?
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6th June 2012
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Senior Bike Builder
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,922 Sportster/Buell Model: 93 Cubic Inch XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1975 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1968 Other Motorcycle Model: Softail Deluxe Other Motorcycle Year: 2007
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If you're going to pay those prices go to Baisley and get hot rod head work for the same price. While you're there get some roller rockers too.
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6th June 2012
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Land Speed Record
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Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 703 Sportster/Buell Model: dragbike Sportster/Buell Year: 1960
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WTF he's been sodomized for a head rebuild and now you want him sodomized for some roller rockers?
Seriously it's only off .030" What's .030" among friends?
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6th June 2012
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Senior Chief Know It All
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Boston
Posts: 852 Sportster/Buell Model: Sportster XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1974 Sportster/Buell Model #2: Sportster XLH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1977 Other Motorcycle Model: Trac Dynamics / Razor,
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Originally Posted by fdny37
If you're going to pay those prices go to Baisley and get hot rod head work for the same price. While you're there get some roller rockers too.
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We have said this over and over and over.....along with Flohead works....
Oh No not again ok I will shut up.... But they save money in the long run.
I will say that there are guys charging 550 or so and it is the complete package plus they usualy blend the pockets and bowl.
Andy the way you measure and what guides used might be wrong/right, I'm not sure unless I see a lic of what your doing. But over all the Rivet is right about that
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6th June 2012
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Chief Master Mechanic
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: AKA-Hell
Posts: 457 Sportster/Buell Model: xlh Sportster/Buell Year: 1979
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wow. That's a lot of money to fit parts for 4 valves.
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6th June 2012
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Senior Bike Builder
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Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 1,922 Sportster/Buell Model: 93 Cubic Inch XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1975 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1968 Other Motorcycle Model: Softail Deluxe Other Motorcycle Year: 2007
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Hey tracbike the vein on your farhead is popping out. 
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6th June 2012
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Biker
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 55
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headwork
Ill have to chime back in.He did do a complete rework and changed the geometry on the valves and seats and reworked the bowls.It was well worth the price.Simply suggested a call to him for technical help
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