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17th June 2012
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 26 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1974
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Mid-range strangeness...
I'm new to Harley's (and bikes in general), so bear with me and my very limited knowledge.
I'm getting some strange noises when cruising in the mid-range. It's not a pop or a backfire, more like the sound of someone shaking a few stones in a metal watering can. It seems like the sound is coming out the pipes, as opposed to from the motor. Only happens in 3rd gear @ ~30 mph and more noticeable in 4th @ ~40-50 mph. Any ideas?
I know she needs a good carb cleaning (possibly new jets) and could probably use plugs and wires (points & condenser too?). I'd really like to make this last.. absolutely love the bike. Like I said, I'm new to this.. so, please, be gentle.
-Jim
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17th June 2012
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Biker
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 26 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1974
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2nd @ 30 (in town cruising) seems slightly absurd... Maybe I'm just not used to high r's on two wheels, as I've been on four for waaaaaaay too long.
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17th June 2012
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Senior Master Custom Bike Builder
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Cornelius, OR
Posts: 3,992
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Detonation?
Valve adjustment?
Who knows, I can't hear it from here...
I can say for sure that,
You should not ride it unless you are sure that everything is right,
or you will find out just how fast one can eat itself up.
Jets don't wear out. However the stock low speed jet is often undersized for a motor that has been modified to improve airflow (air filter / exhaust).
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17th June 2012
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Turbo Mafia Test Pilot
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 1,446 Sportster/Buell Model: Turbo 1200N Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Other Motorcycle Model: FXDL Other Motorcycle Year: 2005
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I usually shift to 3rd around 40 if I'm riding normal if that helps.
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17th June 2012
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Turbo Mafia Test Pilot
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 1,446 Sportster/Buell Model: Turbo 1200N Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Other Motorcycle Model: FXDL Other Motorcycle Year: 2005
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Just re-read the post and totally missed the part about stones in a can before!  Sounds like it could be detonation?
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17th June 2012
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Biker
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 26 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1974
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Hmm. I definitely don't know enough to diagnose and/or fix this problem.. kinda' discouraging given the cost of labor these days. I s'pose.. ya gotta start learning somewhere.
I'm sure that, given my luck, when this ship comes in.. I'll be at the airport.
Thanks guys.
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18th June 2012
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Rider Of The Iron Steed
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: London, ON Canada
Posts: 23,744 Sportster/Buell Model: XLH Sportster/Buell Year: 1978
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Quote:
Originally Posted by (WI)IceDevil
... I'm getting some strange noises when cruising in the mid-range. It's not a pop or a backfire, more like the sound of someone shaking a few stones in a metal watering can. It seems like the sound is coming out the pipes, as opposed to from the motor. Only happens in 3rd gear @ ~30 mph and more noticeable in 4th @ ~40-50 mph. Any ideas? ...
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You may be going too slow to be using those gears? Maybe lugging the engine?
Do this, from the Technical Stickys ...
IronHead Noise - Using a Stethoscope
http://xlforum.net/vbportal/forums/s...d.php?t=832376
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18th June 2012
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Bike Builder
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Mojave Desert
Posts: 1,804 Sportster/Buell Model: 1200S Sportster/Buell Year: 2002 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLH883 Sportster/Buell Year #2: 2003 Other Motorcycle Model: Triumph Bonneville Other Motorcycle Year: 2012
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30 MPH in third is good if you are downhill and the throttle only cracked.
Harleys have great low end torque, but still do not like being lugged.
+1 to IronMick's comments.
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18th June 2012
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Biker
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 26 Sportster/Buell Model: XLCH Sportster/Buell Year: 1974
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Speeds noted. Thanks.
I'll get on that, Mick. Thanks.
Being green, wet behind the ears, noob etc. sure is exciting. Hopefully, it isn't too costly. 
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18th June 2012
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Senior Chief Know It All 2nd Class
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Southwestern Minnesota
Posts: 1,450 Sportster/Buell Model: XL1200 Low/TTS/Gronked Sportster/Buell Year: 2007 Sportster/Buell Model #2: XLCH1000 Sportster/Buell Year #2: 1975
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How about maybe your license plate bracket, rear fender or chain guard rattling. My chain guard was making a rattling sound, it was cracked and after getting it welded, noise was gone.
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