Tuner, Breather, Exhaust...but wait

[blacknblue2002]

well, I did find that if I wanted any tuning work done at the dealer they 'strongly recommend' the power-commander V and they're 'certified' dynojet tuners. I think I could actually get a 15% off deal through them since I bought the bike there. I'll have to compare that to online prices.
My Indy shop recommends the Thunder-Max but prices on that thing our insane. They said they get discounts on it so I may have to get a quote, but if it's a couple hundred more I don't think I could justify it. It would be nice to have a closed loop system with 3 yr. warranty but...price hurts a bit
Any more comments on the V&H Comp exhaust....I went through the sticky and almost every person w/ V&H had the short shots, or sideshots (which give almost no backpressure). Atleast the Comp pipes are 2-1, but the reason I like them is their short profile and shaped heatsshield

[linkin5]

The V and H produts aren't great on making power, if that is a goal look else where, if looks are more important go with V and H.

[diouxsie]

Originally Posted by linkin5

The V and H produts aren't great on making power, if that is a goal look else where, if looks are more important go with V and H.

Are you also including in your comment the V&H Competition exhaust?

[2007Low]

Originally Posted by whittlebeast

For a lot of technical issues, the SERT from www.mastertune.net is the best option. Don't tell them I sent you though.

AW

Hey Andy, that's a pretty good plug for them knowing the rash of sh t they gave you.

[whittlebeast]

I would rather pay $400 for a SERT than install a free PC3 or a free Harley version. I don't trust the Mastertune autotune stuff but it does get you close enough for most applications in a few hours.

AW

[blacknblue2002]

Thanks for the feedback Whittlebeast...just curious if you feel the same about the PCV as you do of the PCIII?

and the prices I saw on your link were a bit more than $400...do they have better deals if you call?

[whittlebeast]

PCV is a little better if you get the self tune stuff but it still has a fetal flaw. No data logging.

It may be $425. I don't really remember. A few guys discount it a little.

AW

[sportytrace]

Originally Posted by whittlebeast

I would rather pay $400 for a SERT than install a free PC3 or a free Harley version. I don't trust the Mastertune autotune stuff but it does get you close enough for most applications in a few hours.

AW

Hey Andy have you actually tried the V-tune autotuning software on the new versions of SERT? It's been a while since I've read any updates from you, but I thought last time I asked you hadn't actually tried it yet and didn't want to update your software (though that was a while ago).
I've been reading a few different threads around the place lately of folks that have autotuned with the V-tune from TTS and then had their bikes dyno tuned by "experienced" tuners who haven't been able to improve on the V-tunes. Haven't seen it or tried it myself yet so take all I read with a grain of salt... but seems to me the TTS's VTune is doing pretty well.

[blacknblue2002]

edited....did some research and found that the TTS guys are the same ones that originally made the SERT for H.D.....but have done their own upgrades now

a lot of people (non sportster riders included) are preferring the TTS to Dynojet or Thundermax

[b0fh]

they are different things. power commander is a piggyback device that works with the original ECM, SERT/TTS are reprogrammers for the original ECM, and thundermax is an 'open' replacement for the factory ECM.

I have the power commander. it is neat and user friendly, but useless for heavy engine work or a 1250 conversion, IMO (unless you also 'convert' your factory ECM somehow).

cheers